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  2. Fence

    Dogs in sheep out

    cant add much to what west fork said. if the dog walks through the fence you have. that's no good. theres some bandaid type fixes you could do. but it will always be a rig and look like a after thought. the way I see it theres two acceptable options. install the proper net wire or get different dogs.........
  3. West Fork Fence

    Dogs in sheep out

    http://www.tornadowire.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/HT8-80-30-web.pdf Sorry, I posted the wrong link. Is this what you have? The wire will measure what the data sheet says, as Tornado takes great care to meet the standards set. I'm sure a bit of local knowledge will be along soon to answer your specific questions. I'm just killing time while waiting out a thunderstorm about 4,000 miles west of you.
  4. Snurtlebug

    Dogs in sheep out

    Thanks for replying, I think you are correct with the what I have bought, as I think it was ??/80/15 but what the initial letters were I’m unsure. However what I find puzzling is the specification sheet details the spacing to be 150mm between the upright wires but when I measure it’s 32cm??? Which would be 320mm I can’t find any of the rolls of tornado high tensile wire with such big holes so I’m guessing I’m misunderstanding what the line wire detail picture is telling me? The wire you have suggested seems to say the holes are 50mm wide, but how do I know when the other size is double?
  5. West Fork Fence

    Dogs in sheep out

    http://www.tornadowire.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/MHT8-80-15-web.pdf What you have? http://www.tornadowire.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/R13-120-5-web.pdf What you need?
  6. Snurtlebug

    Dogs in sheep out

    Hi, I have a Croft which borders our house and have made a pen using 50m of tornado high tensile wire. It’s standard 80cm high and the top two rows of ‘holes’ are 32cm long by 15cm high. Unfortunately one dog can step through and the other can jump over the top despite 3 top lines taking the fence height to 110cm! When we purchased the wire we asked for small sizes holes as we knew the dogs have in the past gone through. Unfortunately we had folk helping put up the fence so it was up and cut before we realised. I am struggling to work out what we bought as I can’t find the hole sizes. I am also struggling to work out what we should replace it with especially as we would want to eventually do the whole garden approx 200m of fencing. Any ideas would be useful our current 6ft posts stand 140cm above ground.
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  8. FaCT -Train

    Fencing Qualifications

    Hello Tepapa, The training programme has many elements including some classroom based training and lots of on site assessing... If you require more info please give us a call on 0121 476 4731. Kind Regards, Joe
  9. tepapa

    fixed knot versus squre knot

    I would rather use hinge knot over torus. Torus is easy and quick to strip the verticals and pulls up well but the square knot is not as strong IMO. It moves out of place too easily if pushed down, i can't see the fence lasting/looking as good long term. We don't use much titan fixed knot in the UK, purely down to cost, farmer knowledge and availability although I do think it is the best knot available. It is a strong knot and combines the one piece vertical found in torus. Just need Tornado wire to make a T8/90/30 at a reasonable price
  10. tepapa

    Fencing Qualifications

    Hi joe. What is covered by your training program?
  11. Thegoatman22

    fixed knot versus squre knot

    They dont seem to hold up as well to livestock, once they start getting pushed down the whole fence folds down together.
  12. Thegoatman22

    fixed knot versus squre knot

    I hate hinge knotts. I hate striping them. I hate how they look after a couple years of livestock pressure, or branches/trees falling on them.
  13. FaCT -Train

    Fencing Qualifications

    Hi Guys, Joe here from Fencing and Construction Training (FaCT). We've got funding for you to use when training which will greatly reduce the cost of you and your staff getting qualified. More and more sites are requesting that you hold Blue FISS CSCS cards and we can fund you to achieve that! Get in touch on 0121 476 4731 for details or reply on here. Joe
  14. West Fork Fence

    fixed knot versus squre knot

    Most of the members here live in hinge joint territory, so you may not get much of an argument for fixed knot. I think the only fixed knot I laid eyes on in the UK, was at the Tornado factory. 1147-6 Torus is the called for spec used for RR right of ways.......I think.....so square knot is common. I like Titan fixed knot, but I like Torus square knot, too. Anywhere there will be pressure from livestock, trees, neighbors kids, etc, I like fixed knot. They are both plenty stiff, but the fixed knot is a bit tougher, and quite a bit more visible. The biggest benefit of Torus, in my opinion, would be the long rolls.
  15. I'm became a big fan of the square knot and one piece stay probably round y2k. it was low tensil redbrand. it stretched and graded out so much better than hingedjoint wire. this is even more so with high tensil. id like to say I will never use low carbon or hinged knot again but often I'm dealing with a hardheaded texas rancher. ive known him since I was born. I have to give him what he wants....even if hes wrong. weve converted plenty to tornado and we try on very one. there wont be any hinge knot in my barn and theres very little fixed. almost all torus square not. sise by side they both make a world class fence. the torus being a little cheaper.....usually. and easier to work. imo. I'm just curious can anyone give me a good friendly argument that I can use with my customers on why the fixed knot is considered king.
  16. West Fork Fence

    Wood is outdated

    Be the first in your area to use it, and do a good job. You'll have more work than you can handle in no time. Galvanized wire on galvanized posts with galvanized fasteners...... It'll last forever. www.farmfencetalk.co.uk/gallery/image/615-img_5283jpg/
  17. Markhibberdfencing

    New Member

    What happened to my comment, it just disappeared. Gosh technology
  18. Hi Guys, Joe here from Fencing and Construction Training (FaCT). We've got funding for you to use when training which will greatly reduce the cost of you and your staff getting qualified. More and more sites are requesting that you hold Blue FISS CSCS cards and we can fund you to achieve that! Get in touch on 0121 476 4731 for details or reply on here. Joe
  19. Sheepneighbour

    Advice on lamb-proof, horned-sheep safe and horse safe fencing

    I just want to thank you all for your help. I've been for a walk on my neighbour's land today - we have right to roam in Scotland and another neighbour came with me for company to show me what she sees when she walks there every day. My neighbour who is ordering me to remove the chicken netting has rolls of loose barbed wire, loose strands or loops of tensile wire, rabbit netting all along one fence by a plantation with some of the netting falling off and barbed wire on her own fences, next to her neighbour's horses. I've realised it's not about the fence.
  20. Never heard that chicken/rabbit nett is leathal. Plenty of rabbit nett is used to keep rabbits out of planted woodlands and hedges. The electric will keep the horses off the fence along as you keep power in the wire. If you just wanted to add proper netting to the existing fence I would put up tornado HT/8/80/8. The 8 cm spacing which would be safe for horses and sheep and stop them eating the hedge. Being only 80 cm would fit on the 90 cm gap
  21. Thegoatman22

    Wood is outdated

    Looks pretty good. I think it would make alot of sense for people to switch to metal, I set alot of posts in holes full of water.
  22. Fence

    Wood is outdated

    We use 23/8 to 3" on braces and pipe fence. I use absolutely zero lumber in agriculture fence. we drive H post to around 40" every H gets a deadman. no exception I will not build just a H. the dead man is driven to a depth of 4 to 8foot. our ground is predominantly rocky. in places it's nothing but rock. in these areas we may fall short of 3' the length of the rock drill .
  23. West Fork Fence

    Wood is outdated

    We use a 4" SS40 strainer, 3" SS40 brace post and deadman, and 2-1/2" SS40 horizontal and angled strut.
  24. Thegoatman22

    Wood is outdated

    No it's fine. I am curious still what diameter pipes you ate using for your H post
  25. Fence

    Maximum height of agricultral fencing

    I can only speak for Texas. There is absolutely no height requirements for deer fence in unincorporated areas. Within city limits typically a variant must be approved by city council for heights over 6 feet. Up to 8 foot is generally approved easily.
  26. Kateridgeback

    Maximum height of agricultral fencing

    Can I ask if anyone knows apart from on the deeds of the land what is the maximum height of deer fencing allowed on a agricultral land ? (without requiring planning permission ? Thank You
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