haslemerefencing Posted December 28, 2016 Report Share Posted December 28, 2016 Hi guys planning for next pick up,,, I'm looking at either ranger 3.2, or Isuzu. I want 3.5t towing,, not for everyday, but as an occasional back up. Obviously want 4wd, it's also my car so opinions on ride quality, not interested in any landrover/discos as need to chuck the odd bit of materials in the back. Any other thoughts, opinions ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goaty Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 I'm in the same situation but will be buying secondhand, I think it will be a ranger. However I reckon the best option for reliability new will be the Isuzu. The new rangers have had some stick on other forums. I think they have designed them more for the ego than work vehicles these days, like the japanense bling chrome wagons. If you look at the pickups of the 80s- early 90s. 2 seaters with long useful loadbed, whereas now you see a landscaper in a doublecab with a strimmer poking over the side. My old escort van holds more volume wise and as yet I've not needed a 4wd, but it's the towing issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
premnayloon Posted December 30, 2016 Report Share Posted December 30, 2016 Ah, I still reminisce about my favourite motor, , daihatsu 4trak, I loved that thing OK not built for heat, comfort, or speed, and when it pulled a trailer it boiled, but lewlewave to cool top up radiator and away you went again, I wish they still made them, nothing I had before or since compared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haslemerefencing Posted December 31, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 My dad had a 4 track,,, very good, and great towing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 There's a few new pickups in pipeline. Obviously no one can say what they will be like but if it's not the immediate future your going to be changing then there's a new merc 4x4 pickup due out later in 2017. Don't suppose it will be a bargain mind you. Also the current ranger is the final facelift model before a whole new one comes on market probably nearer 2018. Funny feeling it may be more cross between pickup and SUV as that's the road there all going down. But if your planning on using it as car as well then a few comforts are appealing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontrowfencing Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 I just got the new hi lux, waiting on delivery, but with basc discount, if you are looking at new they are worth a look. I am Toyota biased though. Also hold money well when it comes to selling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charliehub Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 I'm an Isuzu fan.. running a twin cab Dmax that tows like a dream and also the refinements of a car to drive had this one 2 years now and no problems also have a 52 plate twin cab Isuzu from new that has been a great truck 140000 miles a lot of dents but apart from a new alternator two years back and a bit of welding on the exhaust all original and nothing else has gone not even the clutch ..starts on the button every time just been offered £1000 for it so does not owe us anything We also ran a ford ranger for a year not a bad truck was not as good on the towing and a bit thirsty too ....good in a crash though as this was written off in a head on with a Peugeot 206 and the Mrs and my son luckily came out with just a few bruises, that is more than can be said for the boy racer in the Peugeot ...he was ok but spent a while in hospital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haslemerefencing Posted January 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 I just got the new hi lux, waiting on delivery, but with basc discount, if you are looking at new they are worth a look. I am Toyota biased though. Also hold money well when it comes to selling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haslemerefencing Posted January 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 Hi front row, do Toyota do 3500kg tow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
premnayloon Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 I'm an Isuzu fan.. running a twin cab Dmax that tows like a dream and also the refinements of a car to drive had this one 2 years now and no problems also have a 52 plate twin cab Isuzu from new that has been a great truck 140000 miles a lot of dents but apart from a new alternator two years back and a bit of welding on the exhaust all original and nothing else has gone not even the clutch ..starts on the button every time just been offered £1000 for it so does not owe us anything We also ran a ford ranger for a year not a bad truck was not as good on the towing and a bit thirsty too ....good in a crash though as this was written off in a head on with a Peugeot 206 and the Mrs and my son luckily came out with just a few bruises, that is more than can be said for the boy racer in the Peugeot ...he was ok but spent a while in hospital. Hi Charlie, my Isuzu is an 08 plate, I had new alternator too, was yours an overcharging issue like mine?I'm going to have to replace the suction control valve, just started to give a problem other day, they are a common fault on tbge Isuzu, for any Isuzu owners have a look on the Isuzu owners forum, some fantastic threads in there dealing with any issues that develop. Indeed nt alternator issue was diagnosed by a guy on the forum, without even seeing the vehicle, while I handed over £400 to local dealer who despite plugging in would identity issue. Anyway looking back I was torn between Isuzu and ranger, and simply because my mechanics doesn't have the required diagnostic kit for Isuzu I wish I'd gone with ranger, I've also replaced two glow plugs they are notoriously hard on glow plugs, but I'm hoping that this stuff is just wear and tear, she sailed through test last November Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontrowfencing Posted January 5, 2017 Report Share Posted January 5, 2017 Hi front row, do Toyota do 3500kg tow? Yes the new ones now can be ordered as 3.5 tonne, no additional cost, just make sure you spec 3.5 as the are still some 3.2 tonnes coming in. That is what I am led to beleive, just picked mine up today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S J H Posted January 9, 2017 Report Share Posted January 9, 2017 Yes the new ones now can be ordered as 3.5 tonne, no additional cost, just make sure you spec 3.5 as the are still some 3.2 tonnes coming in. That is what I am led to beleive, just picked mine up today. How's it going? Is it double cab? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontrowfencing Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 How's it going? Is it double cab? Yeah I go at the double cab at the minute. So far I am very pleased with it. Although that is not saying much as only done a couple hundred miles and the Mrs a Has done a fair few of them. Hopefully get it out towing soon and see. I kno wthye got bad press on reducing the engine size, but at present compared to the old 3.0 litre it seems far quicker and more power. But so far I am pleased. Which is good now I have forked out a load of money for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haydn Gleave Fencing Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 I'm an Isuzu fan.. running a twin cab Dmax that tows like a dream and also the refinements of a car to drive had this one 2 years now and no problems also have a 52 plate twin cab Isuzu from new that has been a great truck 140000 miles a lot of dents but apart from a new alternator two years back and a bit of welding on the exhaust all original and nothing else has gone not even the clutch ..starts on the button every time just been offered £1000 for it so does not owe us anything We also ran a ford ranger for a year not a bad truck was not as good on the towing and a bit thirsty too ....good in a crash though as this was written off in a head on with a Peugeot 206 and the Mrs and my son luckily came out with just a few bruises, that is more than can be said for the boy racer in the Peugeot ...he was ok but spent a while in hospital. Have to say I agree with Charlie, I was torn between Toyota, Ford and Isuzu. Went with the Isuzu on the simple fact they had a good warranty and exceptional dealer back up. Done 11,000 miles with it no problem, only niggle was the lighting plug, took it in they sorted it free of charge and even gave me a brew! Pulls like a horse, bit lazy at junctions but most comfortable truck to drive with a 3.5 tonne load down the motorway. Plus it's a damn sight better on fuel than my last truck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED STAG Posted January 14, 2017 Report Share Posted January 14, 2017 Its Isuzu dmax 3.5 towing for me great truck but only ever had defenders to compare it to, would I go back defiantly not. It’s had a clutch but that’s only due to a bad operator with a loaded trailer in reverse up a steep hill in high box not me by the way. Total cost £240. But I did change it myself It’s ridiculously good on fuel and comfortable to drive tows well but can be a bit slow to get going with a full load. Off road well I can honestly say I am surprised still on standard tyres and its impressive. My biggest bug bear is it’s a bit of a pig to turn round in a tight spot with a trailer on. Can’t see it holding its money like a Toyota or a defender come to that but whatever I saved on trade-in prices with the defender I defiantly lost over the 2 years I kept them on fuel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shire Country Services Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 We had a 62 reg 3.2 Ranger and it was a good machine but unrelaiable and the dealer didn't want to know. Not helpful at all with 2 major breakdowns, vehicle off the road for 3+ weeks at a time and a Transit Connect as a courtesy car. Nice truck, terrible service and relaibility. 20k mile service intervals far too long for towing workhorse. If you have a very good local dealer this might not be an issue. We run 5 Isuzu D'max's now, 63 to 16 reg and they are fantastic. Not as flashy as the Ranger but very good work horses, pull well, drive well and our local dealer SG Petch in Richmond as fantastic. 5 year warranty and good backup, we wouldn't look elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete at Fences Ltd Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 We have had rangers and like the 3.2 been good with us. Will look at the Isuzu next year when we trade in and the hilux but the 3.2 engine is hard to beat for towing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HullFencing Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 nobody considering new navara then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontrowfencing Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 Just an update, I have now done a few miles in the new Toyota and I must say I am pleased with it, tows well, nicely geared and no need to ride clutch in first. Just pulls away. Gets upto speed easily. It is more thirty then I would like, but I am always going to,say that unless I get 40mpg plus put of it . It has done around 31 not towing and about 23 towing the knocker. 5 year warranty also and good residual value. Also,with BASC discount it was cheaper then Isuzu and ranger on like for like spec. Plus I know my locals dealer so he looks after me on servicing. I think all the vehicles are quite good these days to Ben honest. Comes down to preference. Test drive them and spend the hard earned money on the one you want most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenceman Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 im now using a 3.2 ranger for my workhorse .kitted out with winch , bfg mud terrains fully ally lined with toolbox's with roof bars built in .before this i was using land rover 110 td5 and chipped ,i thought this was good for towing but the ford is phenomenal .it will pull 3.5 ton as if it was only pulling 2 ton .really good brakes and fantastically stable .i only get 21 mpg but that is towing every day ,and full of tools and everything else we carry, its heavy but thats why its stable . strongly recommend the ranger for towing work, of road it has not got the bodywork clearance of a defender but the 4wd system works well , although low box can be a little difficult at times , but that much power and torque rarely needed first gear is much lower than that in the 5 speed land rovers .steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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