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post and rail on real hard ground


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We use a rectangular rock spike about 10mm smaller than the post, drive it almost to depth keeping it straight with a post twister then push in a flat ended post and drive it to level job done...there's a video on our Facebook page just search for J Hubbard & son ltd it's the last video we put on, we never us pointed post for post and rail wet or dry find they just tend to send the posts in all directions where as flat go straighter.

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90% of post and rail we carry out is always with pointed posts, I just find it helps give the posts a start, was on a job recently where materials where already on site some posts blanks and some pointed, the pointed posts were on average 6 hits per post less....... Our posts are always pointed before going to site....

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All depends what you are driving into- if ground is chalk, solid clay mixed gravel etc you will be able to pinch bar a hole and soak it with water min 3 times so it's all soft around the hole the post will drive if pointed and so long as it's larch, if it's rock no option other than rock spoke or the hydraulic breaker, best tip on hard ground is to make sure the posts you are using are red wood!! A big help!

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Rossco it's a bit of hollow box about 8mm thick and 70mm x 50mm we welded a bit of 10mm plate on one side just to widen it a bit it's also 600mm long as a guide for depth bottom is just capped off with 10mm plate.. Works well but we are mainly on clay/ sandstone so not as problematic as some ground

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we have a bit of rock about and anything other than a solid rock spike wouldnt stand it, we generally use pointed posts but our ground means we have to top them with a saw as we might have 3' of soil for one and only 14" for the next one, often have to dig and postcrete the odd one or two as well, they walk and twist all over the place and the box we use for keeping them straight has a 4' handle for a reason lol

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