Matt on the Moors Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 I have a customer who had loads of fencing done (not by me) several years ago. I have been asked to replace all the rotten stakes- the wire is still in good condition and tight for the most part. What do you think a fair price is labour only to do this? Id ideally like to give a price per post as it's an easy figure to use. Will involve removing old post, installing new and stapling up. Several fields to do like this, some of it is pretty steep and only really accessible with a digger an post driver Cheers chap-ers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goaty Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 Not easy to quantify. I spent a few days doing this last summer and did it by hour rate. You don't feel like you've done much for the time it takes, the reality is you've almost put a new fence up with extra hassle. Bearing in mind the wire outlay isn't involved if you charged normal rate per metre it's still cheaper than a new fence. Do you have the stockade staplemate? It will half the destapling time. Do. You have rotten posts to dispose of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Fork Fence Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 We charge $7 to drive 4-5"x8' stakes, and $8 to drive 5-6"x8' stakes in old fence. Stapling up and removal of old posts would be by the hour. I'm still not convinced that our knocking rate is profitable, but it's a job I can do on a Sunday without any help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED STAG Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 I did quite a bit last year same scenario 2 of us and tractor and knocker £50 hour plus posts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt on the Moors Posted March 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 I don't have to dispose of old rotten stakes- but will have to move them to a collection point on the farm. Strainer posts are generally sound, so it's just a price to reinstall intermediates. No staple gun, thinking of the most efficient way to do it, I would go along and knock all the new stakes in next to the old ones, then go along and staple up, then pull out old one- by which time the new posts will be supporting the wire which should make it easier to get the old posts/staples out, Goaty- how many replacements would you say you achieved within an hour.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt on the Moors Posted March 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 Last sentance aimed at all of you actually- sorry hadn't seen your replies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontrowfencing Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 I have actually just priced a job, there weren't many to do I think 30 intermediates and 3 strainers. I have charged 30.00 per strainer and 5 quid a post. The strainers will be the worst, but the wire is so old it's not tight, so it's not to much of a problem. I am hoping to get it done with one man in a morning, there is also other works to do on site, so we will make up the day with that. I must admit I don't really want the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt on the Moors Posted March 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 Same as you- not a hugely attractive job. I assume that is £5 labour only for the intermediates? I probably have a few hundred to do, maybe more, it's partly the steep ground and getting materials about which is going to be half the ballache! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goaty Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 When we did it the girl student drove tractor(competant operator) and i operated knocker. The old posts were already taken off and we towed trailer with new posts on back of knocker. It was hit and miss allover a parkland. I chucked rotten posts on trailer as we past as well. Another farm worker followed stapling. Probably 25-30posts an hour. Easy soft ground. As already mentioned alot of time & motion wasted compared to banging 200+ posts and strainers in 4-5 hours. Probably £30 an hour for me tractor and knocker. Cant remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tepapa Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 £50/hour or £4 per post and aim for 150 posts a day. You'll knock 25 posts in an hour, by yourself @£2/post and then you'll need to unstaple and restaple up posts after @£2/post. £30/strainer? And tensioning up again £20? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt on the Moors Posted March 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 150 stakes a day at £4 each, £600 a day- fair play! I'd be very happy with half that for me and tractor and banger! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tepapa Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 Try and do it though, knocking them in could be the easy bit. Pulling staples out and clearing posts will sap your time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tepapa Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 Charge £2/post and dont be disappointed if you only do a 100 posts per day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr T Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 We did some last week and did it on a day rate basis. 2 men and tractor /banger with pick up and trailer to drop out new and pick up old. £395/day. There was steep work involved and that always take longer. Yes with day rate you are not going to make big money but also you aren't going to lose any. You get some double strutted corners to replace and the work rate will take a dive. We never do repairs on a price as you never know what you are going to find. But that's only my view and it's everyone to their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt on the Moors Posted March 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 Mr T, do you my any chance run a Same dorado tractor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Fork Fence Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 Any of you that would like to work for those rates, please come to America and see me. I'll include lodging and plenty of warm weather boating/fishing/emptying of beer bottles. (strictly for the recycling value ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt on the Moors Posted March 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 If I was free and single I'd be catching the first flight to fork! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Fork Fence Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 If I was free and single I'd be catching the first flight to fork! If she can drive staples, bring her along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
premnayloon Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 I think that kind of work has to be hourly or set price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr T Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 No Matt I don't we run a valtra and a Protech tracked machine. If it's a same and a Protech on the back it's probably Robert and Malcolm Truscott. They do a lot of work got the Duchy. Top men. We rarely break out over the border !!!! Where abouts on the moor are you ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajmoore1 Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 I have just been doing a similar job. Best to price it by the hour as depends how much travelling between posts. I have just gone over approx 200 acre shaking posts and replacing any that snapped. Luckily the majority is single strand electric fence so no destapling. Surprising how much time it takes though. I did 100 posts and four strainers in 2 days. Much prefer putting up new fence as you cant really see a lot of difference when your done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt on the Moors Posted March 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 I wondered if you were Robert Trusscott? That's what I was asking in a roundabout way! Thought Mr T.... I spoke to him once on phone as when I bought my Dorado I was concerned about weight of the knocker on a relatively small tractor- dealer said phone mr Trusscott and his advice was spot on. I'm on Dartmoor- up on the top at Princetown, yet to do a job in Cornwall (unless you count Gunnislake!) so I doubt you'd see me on your patch. Take it your near Bodmin moor somewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr T Posted March 30, 2017 Report Share Posted March 30, 2017 Ha ha see your thinking. I'm near the coast about 3 miles from Looe and Polperro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontrowfencing Posted March 31, 2017 Report Share Posted March 31, 2017 Ha ha see your thinking. I'm near the coast about 3 miles from Looe and Polperro. Will be down your way in September, bring the family down for a weeks holiday. No fneicng unfortunately, only from the comfort of my truck seat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr T Posted April 1, 2017 Report Share Posted April 1, 2017 Call in and have a yarn. Always keen to catch up with a fellow fencer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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