Adam Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 Just wondering if anyone has had any problems with gripples slipping or shattering. Amd in some cases splitting? On average we errect 80,000 metres of fencing a year witch we use gripples for and we also do alot of site fencing. We have had major problems with gripples thougth amd there poor service of trying too help us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontrowfencing Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 We had an issue about two years ago now maybe. We had a line of grapples that split in half. It was only on one join though, Gripple did come out and do some tests, but never heard back from them, they tested the tension of our wire and asked how far from the sea we were, couldnt find anything wrong, they took them away and siad thye would investigate but never heard anything back, didn't offer us anything either. It's the only problem we have had with them, however I have heard of others having problems with thme recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted October 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 Yeah we had a giy come out and test the tension of ours too and he said we could pull our wire more so we said well we could if the gripples would take the pressure and showed him what we do and the gripples inside shattered to pieces and he said well that shouldnt of happend and they never got back to us i have also emailed them too. Also we think the contractor gripple ratchets are made wrong we find that we have less gripples breaking if we pull the gripple up with the wire comeing out in a straight line with the fence so the gripple isnt actually sat properly in the holder if you get me. I wish there was another company that made a similer product maybe gripple would then up there game and sort the problems out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontrowfencing Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 There is another type called max tensor. Imthink they are Spanish, but not sure one of our local suppliers stocks them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAWYERFENCING Posted October 21, 2014 Report Share Posted October 21, 2014 Iv'e had a few gripples split in half when using the on the bracing wire on box strainers.I'm just about to use the g pak bracing system on future box strainers they look a chunky piece of kit. Its the gripple twisters that test my patience,does anybody else use these on a gripple join?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarveacreFencing Posted October 22, 2014 Report Share Posted October 22, 2014 Yes we have recently had problems when using the baekart high tensile wire with it. We were pulling to the middle and grippling, and when using the tool to tension, the wheel ratchet and spring completely pulled through and fell out along with the crimped plastic. It must of happened on roughly a third of the ones attempted. A lady has been out a couple of times to take a look and said our techniques were absolutely fine, we tested some gripples the size up but the same thing was happening. We were in reasonably regular contact but now we have heard nothing for a while which is getting slightly frustrating. We sometimes use the gripple twisters to tidy up a join, but they can be more of a pain than being any use sometimes if the wire tail isn't completely straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholsonsforestry Posted October 22, 2014 Report Share Posted October 22, 2014 Yes i have had a few go recently especially on box strainers so will be looking at changing a few things over the next few months, not sure what yet see what i can come up with. Will look at g pak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted October 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2014 Im not sure what we can do about the problem to be honist i have emailed gripple but no reply considering that they are a massive company they havent replied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted October 29, 2014 Report Share Posted October 29, 2014 I also have problems all the time, you cant use medium gripples on box strainers as the tension will rip them apart, at a push I have put 2 in line and use two strands of 3.15ht in a fugure of 8. If im using plain wire I will always use Jumbos as these seem a bit stronger but mainly use g-pac 4's now and I think the gripple grips the wire rope better than plain ht wire. Gripples are far from perfect and I think we need a representative on here to help sort things out, I use a hellish amount of these things and if they weren't so handy I certainly wouldn't be using any! I join and tension wire with them and there is often at least one per join that fails when pulling up for no apparent reason! Maybe Tornado could get on to them and gee them up a bit before we start looking for other alternatives........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nick Posted October 29, 2014 Report Share Posted October 29, 2014 Hi everyone, We have spoken with Gripple and pointed out the concerns raised in this discussion - it wouldn't be right for me to speak for a company I don't work for of course, but the consensus seems to be that they're keen to come on board here and address the issues at hand...we're just working out the best way to create a suitable forum account for them, so do bear with us please! Thanks for your patience, and for all your contributions to the forum - we hope you're finding it a useful resource and that you can continue to contribute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted October 29, 2014 Report Share Posted October 29, 2014 Thanks for that Nick, it seems that their customer relations could do with some work! As to the rest of the forum its good to hear how other people do things as I get on with most of the other fencers in my area but we don't often exchange tips and ideas etc so very handy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryG Posted October 29, 2014 Report Share Posted October 29, 2014 Reading these comments it makes me feel pleased I don't use gripple joiners......... Will stick with an extra strainer and an extra wore pull!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted October 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2014 Thanks for that nick. I find that gripple's cutomer service is appalling too be polite about it so as soon as they are on here the better:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrea@Gripple Posted October 30, 2014 Report Share Posted October 30, 2014 Hi there, Nick thanks for putting me on board. Really sorry to hear that you have problems with our product(s?). We would love to investigate each case individually because there might be different reasons behind them. So please could you send me an email with some more details what happened where and when and how many so that we can try to solve the issues. Please also add a telephone number so that we can contact you and arrange a visit. My email address is: a.williams@gripple.com. Ash, sorry that I haven't got back to you yet. The show season has taken its toll on me. Your email is high on my list. I will come back to you tomorrow latest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbell Posted November 13, 2014 Report Share Posted November 13, 2014 we have trouble with the blue inserts coming out or not gripping. we stopped using them on stay wires and now just use 2.5 plain wire doubled and tied with a tex brown knot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted November 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2014 Hi Andrea I was just wondering if you have received a email off me I have emailed you reference the problems we are having but I have had no reply? Thanks adam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tepapa Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 Any one tried the FASTLOK (91% breaking strength) from Strainrite (Kiwikit)? I appreciate gripples are quick and simple to use but they are the weak point in any fence at only 65% the strength of the wire. I`ve seen too many fences unzipped at the gripple to use on my HT fencing. Crimps for me, 90-100% strength . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbell Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 Any one tried the FASTLOK (91% breaking strength) from Strainrite (Kiwikit)? I appreciate gripples are quick and simple to use but they are the weak point in any fence at only 65% the strength of the wire. I`ve seen too many fences unzipped at the gripple to use on my HT fencing. Crimps for me, 90-100% strength . you wont see mine unzip, we wrap our off like we do any joint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick66 Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 Hi Robbell, Just wondered do you still use a gripple and wrap, seems excessive I just use soft crimps cheaper and never had on slip yet, gripples used to split with frost!! also use Bryce wirelinks but they can be a pain at times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbell Posted February 2, 2015 Report Share Posted February 2, 2015 Hi Robbell, Just wondered do you still use a gripple and wrap, seems excessive I just use soft crimps cheaper and never had on slip yet, gripples used to split with frost!! also use Bryce wirelinks but they can be a pain at times we use gripples for over sharp hill or dip, it allows us to pull the lenth and just tweek to kee tensions even Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex@Gripple Posted April 3, 2015 Report Share Posted April 3, 2015 Afternoon all. Just been reading this thread. Apologies to all out there if Gripple's response to any issues has not been good enough. I have recently taken over from Andrea Williams looking after Gripple customers in the UK. For anyone having issues with Gripple products, please get in touch with me at a.hartley@gripple.com or on 07919 320207 and I assure you we will investigate and give you a full response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Storrs Posted April 24, 2015 Report Share Posted April 24, 2015 I tye my Gripples off with a twisty tool on each side of the gripple- I Know this prevents future retensioning, but really how often does well tensioned hi tensile net ever really need retensioning unless its been caught with a machine or something. I find them very handy for tweaking tension when pulling up but would feel uneasy leaving a job without tyeing them off for fear of them slipping. Also never use them on strainer assemblies unless an emergency, I use a knot ( not sure what its called though!) and that never slips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ffencing Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Never had a problem and we're big users of Gripples, well of course I've over tensioned them at had the wire tear out, but this is through mis-use. Did have a tree come down over a HT deer fence and the gripple join acted like a shear bolt! But overall very impressed. However reading that Gripple have been on site visits, admitted there's a problem and not offered some recompense e.g. a free pack of gripples etc. is interesting. With reference to the G Paks I use them quite often, they use braided wire rope which the gripples 'bite' into better than normal HT line wire, so making strong box strainers is an easier process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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